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An Interview With Rascal – iRunFar

One of many issues that Tara Dower emphasised in her interview about her total supported quickest identified time (FKT) on the two,197-mile Appalachian Path (AT) was the significance of her crew and the way her crew chief, Megan Wilmarth, extra generally identified by her path title, Rascal, was so pivotal in her success. On this cellphone interview, Rascal provides her facet of the story of this effort and what it was wish to assist her buddy, emotionally and bodily, in such an enormous enterprise.

For 40 days, Rascal, Dower’s mother, Debbie Komlo, and a handful of devoted mates chased Dower alongside the AT, waking up at 3 a.m., assembly her upward of six occasions a day to verify she had all the things she wanted, switching out pacers, dealing with logistics, and troubleshooting any points that got here up.

In what can solely be described as a group effort, Staff Chump Change, as they known as themselves, made historical past by maintaining Dower fed, wholesome, motivated, and transferring down the path. The run is a testomony to the facility of teamwork, friendship, and the significance of getting folks in your nook who imagine in you.

Along with bearing on how she and Dower turned mates whereas mountain climbing the AT in 2019, Rascal talks about how she rearranged her life to crew Dower’s FKT, how she set mileage objectives that bought Dower again from a 100-plus-mile deficit on the file tempo, how she needed to play the dangerous cop, and the way Dower’s mother finally stepped in on the ultimate evening to offer the pep discuss of a lifetime. In a sport the place all the things appears more and more professionalized, Rascal tells a narrative of family and friends reaching nice issues collectively.

This interview has been gently edited for readability and size.

Tara Dower Appalachian Trail FKT 2024 on Katahdin with Rascal

Tara Dower (proper) and Megan Wilmarth aka Rascal (left) on the northern finish of the Appalachian Path prepared to start out the FKT try. All photographs courtesy of Rascal and Tara Dower until in any other case famous.

iRunFar: Hey, Rascal! To start with, I’d like to know your background with the Appalachian Path. Tara stated that you just and he or she met in Pennsylvania whenever you had been each thru-hiking, and I’d like to know the origin of the title Rascal.

Megan Wilmarth (aka Rascal): I thru-hiked the Appalachian Path in 2019. It was my second backpacking journey ever, and I simply bought the concept in my head. I noticed another person do it that I knew through the web and was like, “Oh, that appears type of cool,” I wish to spend time exterior. I went to wilderness camp as a child, so I stated, “It’s the identical factor.” It’s not the identical factor. However I rapidly discovered and tailored, which was pivotal for my life. It’s solely been six years, however I can’t foresee myself altering how I reside.

And so we met, sure, it was the center of Pennsylvania, simply south of Lehigh Hole. And I bear in mind I used to be already camped on the shelter for the night, simply hanging out with all these different hikers, and Tara comes — I wish to over-dramatize it; she says it wasn’t this dramatic — however she comes working down the hill, and he or she’s like, “Does anybody know the place the water is? I have to get water.”

I used to be intrigued by this different feminine on the path as a result of the path’s demographic is generally males. It’s actually exhausting to discover a area of interest as a feminine hiker who likes to do plenty of miles, and that’s how I benefit from the path. I used to be like, “Huh, I ponder what her story is. What’s occurring?”

I hiked on and off with Tara and her path household by means of New Hampshire after which Maine. I settled on, I’m ending the path with these folks. I’m not simply going to hike with them each different day. I’m going to be with them daily. And so we summited [Mount] Katahdin collectively. It was a very particular second; we’ve been finest mates ever since.

That is what occurs: She calls me up, and he or she says, “I need to do that loopy factor.” And I’m like, “Certain, why not?” After which I name her up, and I’m like, “I’m fascinated by doing this loopy factor.” And he or she’s like, “Yeah, that sounds about proper.”

Tara Dower Appalachian Trail FKT 2024 selfie with Rascal

Rascal (left) and Tara (proper) having fun with miles collectively on the AT.

iRunFar: So crewing any person for a 40-day effort like this one is a extra critical dedication than some relationships. [laughs] How did you come to occupy your August and September with this?

Rascal: [laughs] I suppose it goes again to 2020. I helped Tara crew her first FKT on the Mountains to Sea Path.

I’m a seasonal individual. I work seasonally. I reside in locations seasonally. I at all times discover myself with gaps in time. For the Mountains to Sea Path, I had determined I’d transfer to Vermont and get a job and all these things. And he or she calls me up, and he or she’s like, “I’m going to run this 1,000-plus-mile path, and I need assistance.” The extra I considered it, the extra I believed, Nicely, I suppose I might simply pause the transfer and assist her.

I confirmed up for the Mountains to Sea Path about 10 days into the hassle, and I simply actually loved pushing her and pushing myself and determining the logistics on the fly. We had been each so model new to all the things. Issues went so fallacious daily, and we needed to struggle to determine it out. Ultimately, we had been each like, “Okay, it was exhausting, however we had plenty of enjoyable. We made plenty of recollections and discovered lots about ourselves and one another, so it was value it.”

A couple of 12 months and a half in the past, Tara stated, “Rascal, I’m going to run the AT. What are you doing?” And I used to be like, “Oh, completely not.” My plan was, in the summertime of 2023, to solely hike the Colorado Path, after which in the summertime of 2024, I used to be going to do the Continental Divide Path. In some way, the path and my life and all the things simply rearranged itself, after which three and a half weeks later, I left to hike the Continental Divide Path.

As soon as the try began, initially, I used to be solely going to remain for about 28 or 29 days out of the try as a result of I had a marriage to attend. I simply bought this sense: Rascal, you should keep. Rascal, you should end this out. Do you actually need to not be at Springer [Mountain] when this entire factor ends?

That’s how I bought roped into it, and that’s how I ended up staying the entire time.

Tara Dower Appalachian Trail FKT 2024 with crew and van

Tara (prime proper), Rascal (backside left), and the remainder of the crew.

iRunFar: It’s tremendous cool to listen to you discuss the way you rearranged your entire life for Tara. There’s one thing distinctive concerning the relationships folks develop by means of long-trail mountain climbing that’s exhausting to copy in mainstream society. Do you’ve got something to say about that?

Rascal: I’ve thousands and thousands. You’re not fallacious. It’s powerful to take these first steps away from society and away from the social norms and the best way that everybody needs you to cool down in a single spot, get a job, no matter. However whenever you preserve stepping away, you understand how straightforward it’s to get away. After which whenever you understand the profit you get out of it, from the expertise of particularly being out on the path and touring by foot, and the folks you meet on the market.

Via-hiking has this lovely communal facet. You may meet a stranger on the market and hike with them for 5 miles and know extra about them than you recognize about somebody again dwelling within the metropolis you’ve identified for 3 years. The vulnerability on the market is very easy to faucet into. That’s why folks like me have determined to rearrange their lives in order that they will have extra experiences and meet extra folks like that.

iRunFar: What you simply stated about relationships and vulnerability, and simply the separateness that you’ve whenever you’re on the path with folks thru-hiking, I feel that may resonate with iRunFar readers who’re path runners and ultrarunners and used to being out on the path with others for a long term or race. However then you definately multiply that by 40 days on this case or 5 – 6 months within the case of a conventional thru-hike. Is that an okay factor to say?

Rascal: Yeah. Desirous about the group runs I’m going on right here in Salt Lake Metropolis [Utah, where I live] with the Ladies of the Wasatch working group, it’s so cool to see all these girls from completely different walks of life coming collectively for a night path run. It’s the identical deal, amplified to an entire new excessive.

Tara Dower Appalachian Trail FKT at a crew stop

The entire crew was pivotal in maintaining Dower wholesome, comfortable, and transferring.

iRunFar: iRunFar readers are aware of the crew scene of the ultramarathon or the lengthy path race. Evaluate that to what you simply did for 40 days when you can. Is it as “Looney Tunes” for 40 days as crewing, pacing, and following any person for a 100-mile race? Or do you agree right into a routine or vibe?

Rascal: I’d say it’s amplified. It took myself and Tara’s mother, Debbie, no less than per week to get into extra of a groove.

There was this large studying curve to start with. The sleep deprivation was the toughest factor to adapt to. It was so intense in weeks one and two that I might barely operate. We had been supposed not solely to operate but in addition to make sure that all the things was taken care of on the identical time by having round six crew stops daily, getting up at 3:00 a.m., and guaranteeing we had been getting there and getting all the things she wanted. I’m additionally a pacer, so I get on the market and run along with her. Then, the night routine is sort of a entire shebang. It’s a whole track and dance as properly.

The strain all of us felt was so intense the whole time. And I feel that’s why, the primary week, even into the second week, I imply, I’ve stated this a number of occasions, I needed to give up each single day. I used to be crying my eyes out daily. It wasn’t till all of us tailored, as soon as we bought out of New Hampshire that it was like, “Oh wait, perhaps this isn’t as dangerous as all of us thought.”

iRunFar: You began with the toughest terrain and a few of the most difficult-to-access elements of the path, didn’t you?

Rascal: Yeah. And if we didn’t have Iceman [David Martin] there, who’s an FKT god, he’s been with Kristian Morgan, he’s been with Karel Sabbe, he is aware of these roads like the within of his eyelids.

Tara Dower Appalachian Trail FKT 2024 Debbie Komlo Sharon Mullen - Kristian Morgan mom

From left to proper, Sharon Mullen (mother of Kristian Morgan, males’s supported southbound AT file holder) joined Debbie Komlo (Tara’s mother), Will Eastman aka Flipper, and JP Giblin for some crewing.

iRunFar: I need to hear this about this a part of the file out of your perspective. Tara described getting out of the Northeast and onto some smoother path behind file tempo. She stated you bumped up the every day mileage to get again on file tempo. She stated it was all you, that she in all probability would’ve been like, “Nicely, I gave it a superb shot, and now I’m simply going to maintain giving it a superb shot.” You stated, “That is the quantity that you just stated we’re capturing for, so we’re going to get again to it.” What’s your model of that story?

Rascal: To start with, we simply needed to do what we might. Maine and New Hampshire had been like, “No matter mileage we get is no matter we get,” as a result of it was exceptionally exhausting by way of terrain. We had terrible climate in New Hampshire, too. As soon as we left New Hampshire, Mother and I did some math, and we had been like, “We’re far behind Karel’s file.” I neglect the precise quantity. We had been between 100 and 150 miles behind Karel, if no more. So it was like, “Okay, we have to bump up the mileage.”

We bumped it up, after which I had a pivotal second the place I wanted to separate my feelings from the file as a result of I used to be letting myself discuss myself into giving Tara a break daily by way of mileage. I noticed how a lot ache she was in. There got here this second of, Okay, however that is what she needs. That is what she’s good at. She’s good at doing exhausting issues, and we’re right here to attempt for the general file. Now we have to attempt for that. I at all times instructed her, “If I can see that you just’re okay, you’re not at risk of being damage, then I’m going to maintain pushing you.”

That’s type of the place it began. Then Mother and I did extra math and stated, “Okay, we’ve got to common X miles daily till the tip simply to make it underneath the wire.” I used to be like, “Cool, I’ll take that quantity, after which I’ll add two miles to that daily.” So we’ve got these further nickels and dimes, we known as it.

Tara Dower - Appalachian Trail FKT - crew

The crew took care of all the things. Picture: Pete Schreiner/@schreinertrailphotography

iRunFar: She stated she would beg again from you, “Can I please do one much less mile, two much less miles?” That you simply had been in negotiations on a regular basis by means of that part.

Rascal: Each single time. I needed to have my guard up. I used to be like, Rascal, pull it collectively. You must be a foul cop. She’s going to beg and plead. She’s going to have a look at her cellphone and say, ‘What about this camp spot? What about this mileage?’

However within the final two weeks, she stopped combating me about it. She would settle for it, “Okay, I’m going to get in late, however okay.” After which she would simply do it. And that’s once I knew. I used to be like, “We bought this within the bag now.”

iRunFar: The ultimate push is the opposite a part of the expertise that I’d love to listen to somewhat extra about out of your perspective. This remaining push has turn into a daily a part of these long-trail pace file makes an attempt the place folks parse out the final 100 miles right into a continuous effort. I suppose it was about 130 in your group’s case.

Tara stated that in that remaining push, she hoped that she was going to make the file, however she didn’t let herself truly imagine it till she was about three miles from the end. She was so afraid of falling, getting sick, or one thing occurring. What was it like out of your perspective for that remaining push?

Rascal: I didn’t need to push her that far on the finish. I had talked to Iceman and lots of people previous to having to do that push. Per week out, two weeks out, I used to be already fascinated by it, and I used to be like, “I don’t need her physique to snap. I don’t need her to interrupt.”

However it was strolling on eggshells round Tara, speaking concerning the future. She didn’t let herself imagine she was going to do it. She’s additionally very superstitious. We had been by no means allowed to say, “Once you get to Springer…” It was at all times, “Barring any incident or harm, if we make it to the tip…”

iRunFar: Insert a big qualifying phrase of superstition. [laughs]

Rascal: [laughs] Actually. And I needed to give a spiel to each new pacer. I used to be like, “Don’t discuss concerning the finish. Don’t even ask her what she thinks about it.”

iRunFar: That’s wonderful. “Excuse me, right here’s your contract of issues you may and may’t talk about on the path.” [laughs]

Tara Dower Appalachian Trail FKT with pacer at sunrise

Tara Dower had a slew of pacers from her Appalachian Path neighborhood accompany her on her run.

Rascal: The ultimate push was her concept, truthfully. Once you have a look at Tara’s races, she’s good at ending sturdy. She’s actually good at simply kicking ass on the very finish of no matter endeavor she’s at. And so she had talked about this remaining push. We didn’t even discuss mileage. We simply talked about what number of days out from the tip we needed to start out pushing, and the mileage lined up the place Friday morning we wakened, and it was like, “Okay, properly, we would as properly simply push till we’re performed.”

We had 129 miles left to go. The cutoff time for the general FKT was Sunday afternoon. However whenever you did the maths, I stated, “Actually, Tara, we might end earlier than midnight on Saturday.” And we did. We completed at 11:53 p.m.

So the final push we began on Friday morning, and we bought about 59 miles and alter into it, and it’s like 10:30 or 11 p.m. I had performed these final 5 miles, and he or she was a large number. She was falling left and proper. She was bawling her eyes out. She was intimidated by the following two sections arising as a result of they had been lengthy. There was a 16-mile part after which a 14-mile part in a single day. And I solely had one pacer lined up for the 16 to this point.

I stated, “We’re attending to the van after this 59 miles and alter, and also you’re going to sleep. You’re going to sleep for 20 minutes, and then you definately’re going to rise up. You’re going to eat such as you usually do, and then you definately’re simply going to go. We’re simply going to go till the tip.”

So she did the 20 minutes. I walked into the van and stated, “Okay, it’s time to go.” And he or she appeared like loss of life and stated, “I want 10 extra minutes.” And I used to be like, “Okay, you may have three extra minutes.”

She wakened from that three-minute nap in such a state that I used to be nervous that she wouldn’t get again on the market. Her mother walked into the van and shut the door, and Debbie gave her the pep discuss of a lifetime. I used to be crying and felt honored to be there for this pivotal second. Then Mother walked her to the path and stated, “All proper, that is it.”

Tara took off, and people subsequent two sections had been exhausting for her. However when the solar got here up, she bought that new revival and motivation.

iRunFar: The story about her mother giving her a pep discuss is gorgeous. I hope that’s one thing you may maintain onto as a result of there aren’t plenty of moments like that in life, are there?

Rascal: It was actually particular.

Tara Dower Appalachian Trail FKT 2024 with crew

Tara’s total supported Appalachian Path FKT was actually a group effort.

iRunFar: My final query. At this level, Tara has many sturdy performances to her title, however she’s fairly younger within the grand scheme of a lifetime. Why do you assume she, amongst so many, is so powerful? What’s it about her that was ready to do that?

Rascal: Tara’s cussed, so wildly cussed.

She’s been obsessive about the AT for a protracted, very long time. She’s from North Carolina, so she’s at all times been close to it. I feel she first discovered about it again in 2011 and have become obsessed. She tried to thru-hike the path in 2017 and solely made it 80 miles. She had a panic assault and needed to get off the path. Then she went again in 2019, and he or she accomplished a thru-hike. And I feel that was large in pushing her towards realizing that she has these capabilities. That’s when she turned a runner, and he or she began doing all these exhausting issues and doing properly at them.

She’s labored her ass off to get sponsorships and practice as exhausting as she will.

However in the long run, she simply doesn’t surrender. I knew the entire time that she would by no means surrender, even after we had been in a darkish black gap of no matter was occurring. Like I stated, I simply didn’t understand how, I didn’t know when, however I knew that we might. I feel that simply provides her this edge.

She simply needs to encourage. She needs so many individuals to really feel what she’s felt by way of with the ability to accomplish massive issues and having this new self-confidence as soon as they accomplish an enormous aim of their lives.

iRunFar: Rascal, I’ve performed plenty of interviews over time, however I’ve by no means interviewed a member of somebody’s crew. This was a treasure, thanks.


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